Politics In Turkey

Turkey is an Islamic country whose politicians want to join the European Union. The corruption there is political and big time. It has currently [ February 2010 ] come into the open. Prisoners have been taken. They are on trial.

The Turks want to join the Europe Union but WikiLeaks told us what the American ambassador really thinks - see WikiLeaks Ends Turkey EU Ambition That has put the kybosh on that ambition.

Trial Exposes Turkey's 'Deep State'
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Turkey has always been a country haunted by conspiracy theories – and not without reason.

Conspiracy literature is a huge industry here: Books postulating improbable links between regional powers - even one series claiming Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, is secretly Jewish and doing Israel's bidding - are best sellers. But even by Turkish standards, the events unfolding in a special courthouse in Besiktas, central Istanbul, beggar belief. Here, 49 very senior military figures, some retired and some - and this is a new and significant development - still on active duty, have been brought before special prosecutors to answer charges of involvement in a plot to destabilize the country and pave the way for another military coup.
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There are always chancers out there looking for opportunities. We could do with a bit of gumption from the British Army in this area.

 

Turkey and Nukes
Corruption is normal. Smuggling is profitable. Things happen.

 

Wikileaks Ends Turkish EU Ambitions [ 29 November 2010 ]

As longer term readers may remember I have written a number of pieces on intelligence matters, particularly those that involve the work of our so called "intelligence" agencies regarding nuclear proliferation and immigration issues. See also this piece I wrote, which pulls a number of these diverse strands together.

One of the primary figures in these narratives was FBI whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, who clearly identified numerous corrupt interests at the heart of the U.S. government who were tied deeply into Turkey's thoroughly corrupt "deep state" (a concept so well entrenched in popular Turk consciousness that it has a specific term in Turkish - derin devlet).

Having spent a lot of time working through Sibel Edmonds various pieces of testimony, and following up as many of the links as I could, I was naturally horrified to hear of David Cameron's insistence that he would "fight" for Turkey to join the EU, saying that without Turkey at its heart, the EU was "not stronger but weaker... not more secure but less... not richer but poorer" and "I'm here to make the case for Turkey's membership of the EU. And to fight for it." (it would be lovely if you expressed "fighting" for Britain in the same strong terms Dave).

I often used to joke with an Italian friend that both our countries were competing to see who could produce the most corrupt and mendacious political officials. We both agreed however that British and Italian corruption would pale into insignificance when compared to Turkey's. Accession to the EU, giving complete open borders to what is effectively Europe's drug funded, weapons (including nuclear) proliferating gangster state would be an immense disaster for all Europeans, for it would give these same corrupt interests unfettered access to Europe.

This background is important to lay out the significance of the contents of the diplomatic cable, marked with 'secret' classification from the U.S. Ankara embassy in 2004 (the target recipient isn't clear): Cable #04AN1KARA721 [ Broken link which implies that they are concealing the truth again. ]

Turkey's corruption alone is reason enough to strenuously oppose EU entry - this diplomatic cable however sets out in stark terms the powerful Islamist influence at work within the Turkish government - a government we are repeatedly told is secular. EU nations such as Austria and Greece (among others) have extremely bitter - and in the latter's case, historically very recent, ancestral memories and histories tied up in the aggression of the Ottoman empire, in a way that I don't think most Britons can fathom. Once this cable does the rounds there I can't see any MEPs from either nation not attempting to block Turkish progress into the EU.

The U.S. assessment of the Islamist influence begins from paragraph 10:

We have also run into the rarely openly-spoken, but widespread belief among adherents of the Turk-Islam synthesis that Turkey's role is to spread Islam in Europe, "to take back Andalusia and avenge the defeat at the siege of Vienna in 1683" as one participant in a recent meeting at AKP's main think tank put it. This thinking parallels the logic behind the approach of FonMin Gul ally and chief foreign policy advisor in the Prime Ministry Ahmet Davutoglu, whose muddy opinion piece in the Dec. 13 International Herald Tribune is in essence a call for one-way multi-cultural tolerance, i.e., on the part of the EU.

I'm sure there will be Spanish and Austrian heads exploding, even amongst so called political "moderates", at the references to Andalusia and Vienna, respectively. British people besieged by the de facto serial monoculturism of "multicultism" in the UK will be deeply familar with the utter hypocrisy expressed in the last sentence, especially those who have objected to it and erroneously been written off as racists, or supporters of the BNP.

In fairness, the cable does detail some distinctly secularist efforts that are more pro-Western, including some that aim explicitly to bring forth the more humanist - Sufi-influenced - side of Islam (see for example Paragraph 24). However the bulk details the impact of the Islamist element in stark terms. There are for example, allegations that the West is fomenting a clash of civilisations and can effectively be "saved" by the spread of Turkish values, along with "concern that harmonization and membership will water down Islam and associated traditions in Turkey". Paragraph 13 goes on to point out the Turkish government's civil service hiring policy: 'to hire on the basis of "one of us", i.e., from the Sunni brotherhood and lodge milieu'. The cable frankly expresses the opinion that previous hires were incompetent and a change to hiring 'on the basis of competence' (!) would still mean that new recruits would be frustrated because of their predecessors incompetence.

The Turkish leader, Erdogan, who Cameron so praises, is described as having "hunger for absolute power and for the material benefits of power" . He has "a sharp authoritarian style and deep distrust of others" and he surrounds himself "with an iron ring of sycophantic (but contemptuous) advisors". As a result, he has a "susceptibility to Islamist theories". And this is supposed to be the Secular leader who Call me Dave assures us will lead Turkey - and the EU - to a better age!

On this particular topic, the remainder of paragraph 17 is worth quoting in full:
 

With regard to Islamist influences on Erdogan, DefMin Gonul, who is a conservative but worldly Muslim, recently described Gul associate Davutoglu to us as "exceptionally dangerous." Erdogan's other foreign policy advisors (Cuneyd Zapsu, Egemen Bagis, Omer Celik, along with Mucahit Arslan and chef de cabinet Hikmet Bulduk) are despised as inadequate, out of touch and corrupt by all our AKP contacts from ministers to MPs and party intellectuals.


Paragraph 19 also gives us specific numbers regarding the number of Islamists within the government itself:
 

Judging by comments to us of insiders in the influential Islamist lodge of Fethullah Gulen such as publicist Abdurrahman Celik, the lodge, which has made some inroads into AKP (Minister of Justice Cicek, Minister of Culture and Tourism Mumcu; perhaps 60-80 of 368 MPs; some appointments to the bureaucracy), has resumed the ambivalent attitude it initially had toward Erdogan and AKP.


Further down, in paragraph 23, the cable identifies a prominent Islamist appointment: "Omer Dincer, an Islamist academic whom Erdogan appointed Undersecretary of the Prime Ministry, THE key position in the government/state bureaucracy."

Can you imagine the popular media reaction to the idea that the BNP had a quarter of the seats in parliament and several ministerial appointments? The above is certainly no different.

The additional information the cable provides us on Turkish corruption is also enlightening:
 

in increasing numbers AKPers from ministers on down, and people close to the party, are telling us of conflicts of interest or serious corruption in the party at the national, provincial and local level and among close family members of ministers. We have heard from two contacts that Erdogan has eight accounts in Swiss banks; his explanations that his wealth comes from the wedding presents guests gave his son and that a Turkish businessman is paying the educational expenses of all four Erdogan
children in the U.S. purely altruistically are lame.


Specific Ministers identified as corrupt were: "Minister of Interior Aksu, Minister of Foreign Trade Tuzmen, and AKP Istanbul provincial chairman Muezzinoglu". The cable even goes on to point out that Turkish police are investigating "Muezzinoglu's extortion racket and other activities has already produced evidence incriminating Erdogan." - a minister openly identifed as running an extortion racket!

The final assessments in the cable are absolutely damning:

the broad, rubber-meets-the-road reality is that Islam in Turkey is caught in a vise of (1) 100 years of "secular" pressure to hide itself from public view, (2) pressure and competition from brotherhoods and lodges to follow their narrow, occult "true way", and (3) the faction- and positivism- ridden aridity of the Religious Affairs
Directorate (Diyanet). As a result, Islam as it is lived in Turkey is stultified, riddled with hypocrisy, ignorant and intolerant of other religions' presence in Turkey, and unable to eject those who would politicize it in a radical, anti-Western way. Imams are for the most part poorly educated and all too ready to insinuate anti-Western, anti-Christian or anti-Jewish sentiments into their sermons. Exceptionally few Muslims in Turkey have the courage to challenge conventional Sunni thinking about jihad or, e.g., verses in the Repentance shura of the Koran which have for so long been used to justify violence against "infidels".


Yep - that sounds just like the fundamentally secular state we've been sold all these years. It is also very important to take note of the U.S. take on the Turkish relationship with history:


A second question is the relation of Turkey and its citizens to history -- the history of this land and citizens' individual history. Subject to rigid taboos, denial, fears, and mandatory gross distortions, the study of history and practice of historiography in the Republic of Turkey remind one of an old Soviet academic joke: the faculty party chief assembles his party cadres and, warning against various
ideological threats, proclaims, "The future is certain. It's only that damned past that keeps changing."


Having been on the receiving end of multiple hacks and defacements on my own websites by Turkish hackers for daring to mention the Armenian Genocide, the above paragraph certainly rings true for me.



Simply either the pervasive - and deep - corruption, or the extensive influence of Islamists within government would be enough to give anyone in the EU pause regarding the wisdom of welcoming Turkey as possibly the 28th member state. But both?

It is reasonable to assume that given the general convergence of views on other matters, the UK FCO assessment of Turkey would not have differed greatly from that of the U.S. Although, as Peter Oborne has repeatedly warned us in his excellent excoriations of the political class - the British FCO and the government parted ways many years before, and in fact the British government under Blair and Campbell has made best efforts to make it irrelevant, despite its long history of expert local knowledge. This is all the more significant in the light of Cameron and LibConfused giving the European External Action Service a free pass to replace the FCO and gives credence to Godfrey Bloom's accusation of "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer" - a vision that, if Davy Boy is anything to go by, surely involved having the Turkish nightmare foisted upon us without a single one of us having a say.

The release of this cable could well change all of that however. Spread it far. Spread it wide.

 

Turks In Germany Support Erdogan After Coup  [ 1 August 2016 ]
Are they Turks or Germans? A Trojan Horse or loyal citizens? Islamic murderers seem to have been from other Hellholes so far.

 

Turkish Government Steals Christian Churches  [ 1 August 2016 ]
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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has taken control of six churches in the war-torn southeastern city of Diyarbakir in his latest move to squash freedom of speech and religious movement. 

The state-sanctioned seizure is just the latest in a number of worrying developments to come out of increasingly hardline Turkey, which is in advanced talks with the EU over visa-free travel for its 80 million citizens. Included in the seizures are Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox churches, one of which is over 1,700 years old.
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As these Islamic thugs screw Christendom it turns out that Christian Churches Want A Muslim Invasion Of America. At all events their managements do. It starts as Altruism then becomes Pathological, dangerous & suicidal.

 

Turks Reneging On Illegal Immigrant Blocking Deal [ 18 August 2016 ]
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Turkey threatens to open Europe's door to thousands of migrants AGAIN over EU visa deal TURKEY is holding the EU to ransom by threatening to release thousands of migrants into Europe unless Brussels grants Turks visa-free travel by October. Turkey is threatening to open the door to migrants if EU visa deal falls throughHundreds of thousands of refugees are currently being held in Turkey, which is preventing them from entering the Eurozone, as part of deal which will allow the country's 80 million citizens to easily access into EU nations.

But the deal with the EU states Ankara would have visa-free access to the continent by October and the nation's Foreign Minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, is getting restless.............

Thousands of refugees are being held in Turkey as they flee trouble in Syria.
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The refugees from "trouble in Syria" are fleeing attacks by vicious foreigners, by the United States Air Force & the Royal Air Force, which were sent by major War Criminals, to wit Cameron & Obama. They are being protected to some extent by the Russian Air Force and that nice Mr Putin.

 

Turkish President Demands A 3 Billion Bung For A Migrant Deal [ 25 August 2016 ]
You need a long spoon before you sup with the Devil or a crooked rogue like Erdogan.
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President Erdogan has again threatened to pull out of the deal to take more EU migrants. Brussels had struck an agreement with Ankara that would see Turkey block people from crossing over into Greece in return for financial aid, accelerated talks over EU membership and visa-free travel to Europe for Turks.
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Corruption is the name of the game. Turks don't want to live under a Tyranny, they want civilization. They need to learn how to run their own lives, not be parasites in Western Civilization.

 

Turk Threatens To Let Thousands Of Enemy Aliens Into Europe [ 25 November 2016 ]
Erdogan
is a crooked rogue. One answer is to use the Army to sort out Third World invaders. Another is a well placed airstrike on Ankara. The first would be a legitimate act of defence - see Casus Belli. The second might qualify as a War Crime but the United Nations don't seem to care about these things, at all events not when Zionist crazies do them.

 

Russian Ambassador Killed In Turkey By A Local Policeman [ 20 December 2016 ]
The copper was annoyed about attacks on Aleppo. He might, quite reasonably have sorted out the British ambassador instead after  Cameron sent the Royal Air Force there to murder people but he took the target that was offered.

 

Twitter Explains Immigration Policy  [ 24 December 2017 ]

 

Head Turk Threatens To Import Over Three Million Third World Degenerates   [ 12 October 2019 ]
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Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan today threatened Europe he will send 3.6 million refugees to the continent if the invasion of Syria is defined as an occupation.

'Hey EU, wake up. I say it again: if you try to frame our operation there as an invasion, our task is simple: we will open the doors and send 3.6 million migrants to you,' Erdogan said in a speech to parliament on Thursday............

The invasion has been widely condemned around the world, with European leaders and President Donald Trump warning Erdogan he risked exacerbating suffering in the war-ravaged region and allowing ISIS to flourish after the US-backed Kurds ousted the jihadists earlier this year.
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Erdogan is an evil thug, just like Adolf Hitler and the swine who runs Israel.

 

Turkey Holding 50 US Nuclear Bombs Hostage In Incirlik Air Base            [ 21 October 2019 ]
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President Donald Trump’s Middle Eastern crisis is only just beginning. His NATO ally Turkey has gone rogue and invaded Syria. So what happens to the 50 US thermonuclear warheads stored on its soil?

Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan last month declared he wanted nuclear weapons: “We have Israel nearby, as almost neighbours. They scare others by possessing these. No one can touch them.” And, given his nation’s rapidly deteriorating relationship with the West, the US stockpile could prove a tempting shortcut to becoming the region’s second nuclear power. “They tell us we can’t have them.” he told a party meeting last month. “This, I cannot accept.”
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Erdogan is a second rate thug but if he gets too big for his boots the Jews will sort him out. They have more nukes than him, even if he does steal America's

 

Turk Floods Europe With 18 Thousand Illegal Immigrants In One Day  [ 1 March 2020 ]
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has vowed to keep borders open for Syrian refugees headed for Europe as the first 18,000 cross the Greek border and migrants clash for the second day with guards.    

'What did we do yesterday (Friday)? We opened the doors,' Erdogan said in Istanbul in his first comments since 33 Turkish troops were killed in northern Syria on Thursday. 'We will not close those doors ...Why? Because the European Union should keep its promises.'

The Turkish leader also said 18,000 migrants have amassed on the Turkish borders with Europe since Friday, adding that the number could reach as many as 30,000 on Saturday.    
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Using the army to defend Western Civilization makes sense; it is what armies are for. They need live ammunition too. Pandering to swine like Erdogan is a mistake. He is another one like Hitler. We know what appeasing him led to.

 

Turk Imports 75 Thousand Illegal Immigrants Into Greece    [ 2 March 2020 ]
 Erdogan has another 4 million Third World parasites left to get rid of. He is bussing them to the border. It is time to get serious. Issuing live ammunition to the army is a start. An airstrike on Erdogan would make sense.

 

Turkish Tyrant Attacking Europe With A Flood Of Third World Parasites  [ 3 March 2020 ]
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Europe is on the brink of a new migrant crisis as Greece locked down its land and sea routes while Turkey pulled out of a long-standing deal to stop the country's 3.6 million refugees from travelling beyond its borders. Hundreds of asylum seekers immediately began making their way towards Greece and Bulgaria – and, if they successfully cross the border, could carry on deeper into Europe.

Turkey’s neighbours responded by reinforcing their frontiers. Greece said it was locking down land and sea routes ‘to the maximum level possible’, while Bulgaria deployed 1,000 troops and military hardware to its 190-mile border with Turkey. One of the first stand-offs came at Pazarkule in north-east Greece, where police used smoke grenades as dozens of migrants, including Syrians, Iranians, Iraqis, Pakistanis and Moroccans gathered.

On Turkey’s Aegean coast, local TV showed two dozen people, including women and children, aboard a rubber dinghy bound for the Greek island of Lesbos.

Ankara’s move was triggered by the deaths of 33 Turkish soldiers in assaults by Russian-backed troops in Syria’s Idlib province.
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Why are Turks in Syria? To make war. Erdogan wants us to do his dirty work for him to help him. A refusal is his excuse for retaliation. He is a murderous Tyrant and treacherous, just like Adolf Hitler. Notice that the Mainstream Media are keen on pictures of women and children trying to break into civilization. The ugly reality is that at least nine out of ten are men of fighting age.

 

Turkish Oaf Throws Old Sofa Out Of The Window    [ 21 June 2021 ]
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A man who was 'too lazy' to take his old sofa downstairs narrowly avoided seriously injuring his neighbour when he threw it out his window. The flat owner, named as Mesut Duran, had bought a sofa to replace the one in his home.

And as this dramatic video shows he chose to take the more direct route to throw away his old sofa by hurling it from his third floor window and risked hurting his neighbour in the process.
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This is not a matter of world shattering significance but it does indicate the nature of the plebian Third World parasites imported into Western Civilization by a corrupt ruling class, by  Boris Johnson, Biden, BlairBrownBushCameronHeathJuncker, Merkel, ObamaPatel, May and other misbegotten rogues.

 

  [ 20 May 2022 ]
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Finland and Sweden formally applied on Wednesday to join U.S.-led NATO, a decision spurred by Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Turkey's objections have come as a surprise to the other members of the alliance..................

The Turkish president said Sweden and Finland harbour and finance 'terrorists' and supply them with weapons.

He repeated Ankara's accusation that the countries supports groups that it deems terrorists, namely the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) militant group and Syrian Kurdish YPG, which it also views as a terrorist group closely tied to the PKK............

Despite his posturing, Erdogan is thought to be squeezing the alliance for concessions in return for his 'yes' vote.
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Erdogan is a deeply nasty bit of work, trying it on to get his hands on Kurds that escaped. He is just as bad as the American Deep State criminals leveraging Her Majesty's Government to get Julian Assange.